tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365489364368097756.post2012184915569935418..comments2023-04-05T02:31:28.430-07:00Comments on Monica at Mozilla: Writing for the 98%Monicahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12258842422801876253noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365489364368097756.post-26427101717028978302013-08-16T14:41:42.970-07:002013-08-16T14:41:42.970-07:00I just found that the stat is visible in one of th...I just found that the stat is visible in one of the images here even though it's not discussed in the text. Perhaps that's what I was remembering.Peter Kastinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04331294514379362250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365489364368097756.post-11955760727212446072013-08-15T15:57:41.482-07:002013-08-15T15:57:41.482-07:00Hey Peter, this stat appears in http://monica-at-m...Hey Peter, this stat appears in http://monica-at-mozilla.blogspot.com/2013/02/cant-live-with-them-cant-live-without.html.<br /><br />Hope you're doing well.Monicanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365489364368097756.post-61922773310743846352013-08-15T14:52:29.383-07:002013-08-15T14:52:29.383-07:00Hey Monica, has this post been edited? I was conv...Hey Monica, has this post been edited? I was convinced that the original version contained e.g. the stat that 0.0085% of users turn on "Master Password", but that stat no longer appears here.Peter Kastinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04331294514379362250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365489364368097756.post-56995767893063490402013-08-08T12:23:59.111-07:002013-08-08T12:23:59.111-07:00I find this hard to believe. The number of non-rel...I find this hard to believe. The number of non-release channel users far exceeds the number of Firefox developers. I seriously doubt that the majority of users in this study were developers who use non-release versions only for testing.<br /><br />Another point is that Test Pilot only uploads results at the end of a study, after the user consents. It is far less likely that developers who use non-release versions for testing would hit this dialog than people using non-release versions on a regular basis.<br /><br />Assuming that Test Pilot users are *less* likely to change preferences than release users defies Occam's Razor.Monicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12258842422801876253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365489364368097756.post-66129924201482489652013-08-08T05:19:42.333-07:002013-08-08T05:19:42.333-07:00We can suppose otherwise :
The users of the beta ...We can suppose otherwise :<br /><br />The users of the beta version use it for previewing and for testing, not for their day-to-day use. So they don't set the software for their personal needs and preferences. Contrary to the users of the stable version.<br />Nicolas B.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365489364368097756.post-56455320452172376222013-05-23T13:54:38.956-07:002013-05-23T13:54:38.956-07:00I think there are more than 3 interpretations. For...I think there are more than 3 interpretations. For example how about users that use non-release versions of Firefox only use them for testing and therefore don't set preferences. For that they go back to the release version where they do set preferences.<br />greggmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365489364368097756.post-367479880233083662013-03-19T15:40:06.655-07:002013-03-19T15:40:06.655-07:00I agree, it seems like a bad design. Also see thes...I agree, it seems like a bad design. Also see <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718088" rel="nofollow">these</a> <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=838864" rel="nofollow">bugs</a>.Monicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12258842422801876253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365489364368097756.post-23322024099738491732013-03-19T12:06:59.169-07:002013-03-19T12:06:59.169-07:00Having two different defaults for these is a bad d...Having two different defaults for these is a bad design in the first place. The location bar should either use the same default, or it should look to the current setting for the search drop-down. What is the use case for making them different?The Monsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15291546809967159683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365489364368097756.post-19869656280678511772013-03-06T19:40:05.912-08:002013-03-06T19:40:05.912-08:00I think you misunderstood my question.
There are ...I think you misunderstood my question.<br /><br />There are two ways to search: search bar and location bar. As a result, there are two default providers. One is "search provider when you type something in address bar" and the second is "the one in the search bar".<br /><br />I posit it is easy to switch the default provider in the search bar: there is a drop down list. In contrast, switching the default provider for the location bar is a bit difficult for most users.<br /><br />What I was wondering was: do users whose default provider for location bar has been switched show a higher tendency to use the search bar?<br /><br />Based on your reply, it seems your test-pilot study doesn't have the numbers to answer this. It might be interesting to see whether this is the case. This way, one simple way to fix this problem might be to add a "Change Location Bar Search Engine" option in the searchbar drop down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365489364368097756.post-49853194113486680272013-02-26T08:12:04.604-08:002013-02-26T08:12:04.604-08:00Guessing from the decline in search bar usage from...Guessing from the decline in search bar usage from 2010 to 2012 (61% to 45.5%) I am guessing that more people use the location bar for search than the search bar. Since Chrome trains users to use the location bar, that would not be a surprise.Monicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12258842422801876253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365489364368097756.post-37934349004428116782013-02-26T08:04:56.140-08:002013-02-26T08:04:56.140-08:00For "Clear history when browser closes,"...For "Clear history when browser closes," 0.73% had privacy.clearOnShutdown.history enabled, and 1.86% had privacy.cpd.history enabled. I think both of those should map to the same checkbox, but obviously there is either an error in my interpretation, or the code, or possibly people are manually setting one and not the other. However, it makes sense that these would be lower than "Always use private browsing mode" since presumably users who care about history also care about other session data.<br /><br />About the DNT numbers, TestPilot users most certainly have a bias. This number is probably much lower in the general population. Alex Fowler showed a DNT dashboard on World Privacy Day based on other data (not AMO blacklist ping, I don't think), I'll have to ask him about it.<br /><br />About using the location bar instead of the search bar, the most recent data I found is this, but it's incomplete in that we don't know how many people user the location bar for search as opposed to the search bar: <a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/ux/2012/06/firefox-heatmap-study-2012-results-are-in/" rel="nofollow">https://blog.mozilla.org/ux/2012/06/firefox-heatmap-study-2012-results-are-in/</a><br /><br />The 2010 study has people roughly tied for searching on each, with a 3-4% preference for the search bar: <a href="https://heatmap.mozillalabs.com/" rel="nofollow">https://heatmap.mozillalabs.com/</a><br /><br />Thanks,<br />MonicaMonicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12258842422801876253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365489364368097756.post-82762301074829978702013-02-25T20:24:27.344-08:002013-02-25T20:24:27.344-08:00This is great! Did you get numbers on how many use...This is great! Did you get numbers on how many users click "Clear History when browser closes"? It could be useful to share that number with the dev.privacy discussion right now. <br /><br />I am not sure I am convinced by the DNT numbers. TestPilot studies have a bias in terms of technical proficiency. Maybe it makes sense to cross-validate this numbe? a simple check might be just asking AMO what are % of requests have the DNT header set. (Actually, I am not sure, but the AMO blacklist ping should also have this number for ALL users)<br /><br />I also wonder if changing (back to preferred) the default search is too hard for users(as opposed to switching back the search bar). Did you measure how many times users use the default search instead of the search bar? I wonder if there is a correlation there: users whose default search has been changed switch to using searchbar more often. Nevertheless, something needs to be done.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com